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		<title>Comment on Product Personality by Measuring Outputs Expanded &#171; Agile Elements</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/06/11/product-personality/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Measuring Outputs Expanded &#171; Agile Elements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Product&#160;Personality  [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Team Charters by Jon Strickler</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/team-charters/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Strickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. I appreciate the insights.  I like your addition of specifically how they will work together.

To your last point, writing it down is sometimes necessary to aid agreement and communication. If you can achieve those objectives without paper - go for it. I fully agree that the process is more important than the output and simplicity is key. On the other hand, a team that works together for a long time may need a way to store their thoughts about why they exist to keep them focused. The last few bullet points are really planning steps and should eventually be integrated into whatever structure you use day-to-day whether it is a card system, spreadsheet or other work management application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. I appreciate the insights.  I like your addition of specifically how they will work together.</p>
<p>To your last point, writing it down is sometimes necessary to aid agreement and communication. If you can achieve those objectives without paper - go for it. I fully agree that the process is more important than the output and simplicity is key. On the other hand, a team that works together for a long time may need a way to store their thoughts about why they exist to keep them focused. The last few bullet points are really planning steps and should eventually be integrated into whatever structure you use day-to-day whether it is a card system, spreadsheet or other work management application.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The First Law of Development by Measuring Outputs Expanded &#171; Agile Elements</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/the-first-law-of-development/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Measuring Outputs Expanded &#171; Agile Elements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] First Law of Development is about maximizing productivity while minimizing cycle time if you&#8217;d like a deeper [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Measure Outputs for Success by Measuring Outputs Expanded &#171; Agile Elements</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/measure-outputs/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Measuring Outputs Expanded &#171; Agile Elements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Outputs&#160;Expanded  Posted on July 16, 2008 by Jon Strickler   I talked at a high level in my Measure Outputs post about the types of measures that are useful. That post stated broadly that input measures do [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Outputs&nbsp;Expanded  Posted on July 16, 2008 by Jon Strickler   I talked at a high level in my Measure Outputs post about the types of measures that are useful. That post stated broadly that input measures do [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Team Charters by Kevin E. Schlabach</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/team-charters/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin E. Schlabach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it is important to have a team gather and talk about these things.  They need the product owner/customer to speak about why they were chosen and brought together.  They need to understand the intention of their mission and responsibility, but acknowledge it will shift and change over time.  They need to get to know each other (team building activities?).  They should have an idea of how they will be measured and what resources they have available.  

Do these need to approached in a formal process with a charter written on a document... probably not.  (who's going to update/read the document later?)  And, shouldn't the sponsor be part of that process?

Also, one thing I would suggest be added to this list (at least more explicitly) is the team's agreements to each other.  How will they handle failed tests or failed builds?  Are they committed to pair programming or TDD?  Are customer demo's done at sprint review or throughout the iteration?  Do standing meetings start on time or when everyone is present?   Without these agreements, the team won't be in sync with one another.

Good post... I'm supportive of the concept and need, just not the full formality.  I only like writing documents when I know someone will read them later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it is important to have a team gather and talk about these things.  They need the product owner/customer to speak about why they were chosen and brought together.  They need to understand the intention of their mission and responsibility, but acknowledge it will shift and change over time.  They need to get to know each other (team building activities?).  They should have an idea of how they will be measured and what resources they have available.  </p>
<p>Do these need to approached in a formal process with a charter written on a document&#8230; probably not.  (who&#8217;s going to update/read the document later?)  And, shouldn&#8217;t the sponsor be part of that process?</p>
<p>Also, one thing I would suggest be added to this list (at least more explicitly) is the team&#8217;s agreements to each other.  How will they handle failed tests or failed builds?  Are they committed to pair programming or TDD?  Are customer demo&#8217;s done at sprint review or throughout the iteration?  Do standing meetings start on time or when everyone is present?   Without these agreements, the team won&#8217;t be in sync with one another.</p>
<p>Good post&#8230; I&#8217;m supportive of the concept and need, just not the full formality.  I only like writing documents when I know someone will read them later.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The First Law of Development by Cycle Time as a Primary Measure &#171; Agile Elements</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/the-first-law-of-development/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Cycle Time as a Primary Measure &#171; Agile Elements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] details why development teams should care about and manage cycle time. It complements nicely my First Law of Development and I encourage giving it a deep [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tips for Distributed Teams by Michael</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/tips-for-distributed-teams/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TargetProcess is a good tool for remote agile teams.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tips for Distributed Teams by msumrell</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/tips-for-distributed-teams/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>msumrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great additions!  Thanks, Jon!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Me a (Short) Story by Product Personality &#171; Agile Elements</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/tell-me-a-short-story/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Product Personality &#171; Agile Elements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   There is a great post up yesterday from Rohit Bhargava about Brand Personality. I mentioned in Tell Me a Story, that I think product managers and owners would do good to give their products personalities early [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Learn from Successes and Failures by Jon Strickler</title>
		<link>http://agileelements.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/learn-from-successes-and-failures/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Strickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the spirit of this post, I will share one of the things I suck at: Schmoozing.  Dictionary.com defines it as: “to chat idly; gossip.”  I'm especially bad at it in a business context as I want to ensure I am using time with clients and partners productively. What this misses is that schmoozing also has a connotation of building relationships that may pay off later. I often assume that by focusing on important topics I do that better. But, I could suck a little less at it and see benefits. In the spirit of self-improvement, I started two business conversations yesterday with a question about a person’s name and both times the schmoozing helped to set a more relaxed tone to the real discussion and maybe build rapport with the person. Here’s to sucking less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the spirit of this post, I will share one of the things I suck at: Schmoozing.  Dictionary.com defines it as: “to chat idly; gossip.”  I&#8217;m especially bad at it in a business context as I want to ensure I am using time with clients and partners productively. What this misses is that schmoozing also has a connotation of building relationships that may pay off later. I often assume that by focusing on important topics I do that better. But, I could suck a little less at it and see benefits. In the spirit of self-improvement, I started two business conversations yesterday with a question about a person’s name and both times the schmoozing helped to set a more relaxed tone to the real discussion and maybe build rapport with the person. Here’s to sucking less.</p>
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